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By laurel

This is getting silly!!!!!!

Jan 12, 2010 - in Signatures and Autographs
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Hello all

Just spotted this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tolkien-Signed-Lord-of-the-Rings-1st-UK-

Recognise the dealer ? - mmmmmmmmmmm i wonder if it could be genuine?

I think we all need ot start reporting these dealers on mass. Maybe then ebay will start listening or maybe I am being too optomistic.

He will be selling Reindeer drawings next!


By laurel

Re: This is getting silly!!!!!!

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Here is ebays usual response
We'll review what you've reported for violations of our replicas,
counterfeit items, and unauthorized copies policy. Thanks for bringing
this to our attention.

We'll review the listing or post carefully. If we determine that it
violates eBay policy, we may:
-- send the seller a warning
-- remove the listing
-- limit the seller's buying and selling privileges

We usually won't suspend a seller's account unless the seller has
violated our policies multiple times
We usually won't suspend a seller's account unless the seller has
violated our policies multiple times
. To protect the privacy of our
members, we don't share what actions we choose to take.

We may also send your report to the rights owner for review. If the
rights owner believes that the item is infringing, they may choose to
send eBay a formal request to remove the listing. To find out more about
how eBay protects intellectual property, please visit:
eBay Item #verified-rights-owner-program.ht


The bold highlighted bit is where we need to focus on i think.

Thoughts?


Re: This is getting silly!!!!!!

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laurel

I'm struggling with this one. I click on the links in your post but they don't work, can you repost the eBay listing again as I can't find the item you are having problems with.

Andrew


By garm

Re: This is getting silly!!!!!!

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Here's a link - http://cgi.ebay.com/Tolkien-Signed-Lo ... tible?hash=item2eaa65b49c

Apart from the obviously fake signature, it seems this might be a rarity - one of fifty copies of the standard 1961 edition of FotR in a readers Union wrapper. (see the Tolkien Illustrated Bibliography)
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By garm

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Here's a link to the relevant bibliography page -

http://www.tolkienbooks.net/html/ru_edition.htm
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By laurel

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Andrew
Sorry about that link- not sure what went wrong.

Well spotted Garm - What a shame to ruin a rare item which may have made a couple of £100 on a good day with a poor signature!
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I looked at the article and this Fellowship is the wrong impression, if it was one of the rare copies it would be the 9th instead of the 10th impression. This is a copy of A&U edition married with a Reader's Union dustwrapper and a fake signature. I reported this seller again to eBay.


Re: This is getting silly!!!!!!

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We may also send your report to the rights owner for review. -eBay

This also seems slightly pointless. Are they going to send all this crap to Christopher, and ask him if he thinks it's genuine?

I have to admit, I don't look at most of this stuff now, so don't get that annoyed by it. But maybe I should start reporting (something I've never done.) It's all (in the long term) damaging for the collecting community.

Maybe, if Trotter's private forum idea is set up, we can have an official discuss (& assuming it's an agreed fake) & report, where everyone makes an effort to report the item/seller; keeping tabs on regular fakers, and petitioning eBay to have their accounts closed (for all it's worth.)

BH
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By laurel

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Just noticed this sellar has now changed description of item to highlight sold as seen type approach. Not enough in my mind and it shouldnt even be offered for sale.
I have reported to ebay for what its worth
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By Jlong

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I reported it as well.

Frankly, I'm a bit fed up with all these fake items. If you think it is a fake, please do the same.
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