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This DVD/BluRay review by someone called J.W.Brawn calls for Tolkien experts to provide some depth (about 13 minutes into the socalled review) to The Lord of the Rings films, he thinks these individuals are suitable, Cliff Broadway and Rebekah Platt.

Who are these people and how are they Tolkien experts? I'm sure we could provide the names of real experts


Posted on: 2011/6/18 5:31


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Perhaps he would like Verlyn Flieger to comment on the films. When asked about the first one she commented:

I didn't like it. But then, it wasn't aimed at me. It was aimed at the generations who've grown up on Star Wars and hunger for more and more action and greater and greater special effects. Jackson has turned an extremely sophisticated, complex and subtle -- and very long -- story into an action movie that I think satisfies the audience for whom he made it. The time constraint that film format enforces makes it almost certain that, even making three separate films Jackson cannot get the fullness of Tolkien's story into a movie. Three hours of sitting it about the outside limit. After that your bum gets numb. I felt some parts were disastrously miscast, Elrond for example. Not the actor's fault, though if I'd been him I wouldn't have stood for that hairdo. Elijah Wood is just wrong for Frodo -- too young, too pretty, too goggle-eyed. And the script gave the character no chance to develop. His moments of growth in the barrow was omitted; his bravery when he turns and faces the Black Riders at the Ford was left out in favor of Arwen as Our Lady of the Ford. Galadriel was terrible, and since Cate Blanchett is a fine actor, she must have been directed to perform in that wooden, zombie-like manner. Sean Bean is the only person who played as if he believed who he was. His Boromir was a real person, not a type. I found him totally convincing, and his funeral journey down the river and over the falls was the film's finest moment. Truly moving. Although the script sentimentalized and overdid the character's repentance at the end. Boromir is not that good. As for un-Tolkienian lines like Gimli's "Nobody tosses a dwarf," and Strider's "Let's hunt some orc," they are beyond comment.

Posted on: 2011/6/18 9:17


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Cliff Broadway is connected with theoneringnet. There's something about him here:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1440958/bio

Rebekah Platt appears regularly on theoneringnet too; presenting a video report on the progress of pJ's upcoming movies called 'The Hobbit in 5'.

Mr Broadway considers himself a Tolkien academic; it says so in a book produced by theoneringnet called 'The People's Guide to JRR Tolkien' (2003), which bills itself as 'the first and only book written by Tolkien fans for Tolkien fans'. Which comes as something of a surprise to an old Tolkien Society hand like myself. There was a follow-up book in 2005, which includes the interview with Flieger which Red quoted from.

Broadway was also involved with an appallingly awful fan film called 'Ringers', which IMO truly hit new lows. In any field of endeavour. Truly awful.

The books contain essays from the website, on all the usual themes to do with Tolkien's works; basically there doesn't seem to be anything here which isn't covered better in many TS publications and on other websites; but theoneringnet have set themslves up as the premier Tolkien fan site, and so they blow their own trumpet here. Mr Braun's selection of Cliff and Rebekah seems to show that he, at least, believes everything he reads on the Net.


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To add; Broadway's moniker on theoneringnet is Quickbeam. There is, or was, a sub-forum called Green Books. Here's a link to a page from there; tho' it seems this page hasn't been updayed for years:

http://greenbooks.theonering.net/quickbeam/files/010203.html

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Theonering.net (better known as TORN to its subscribers) is generally a fan-boy/girl operated site dedicated to jackson's films. I don't think it ever existed prior to the development of the movies. If you really want to get a sense of the people that frequent it (and perhaps you don't), have a look at the discussion forum - it is quite comical. My favorite was a fellow using the monker "Morthoron" (or something similar) who has written a piece of fan-fiction that marries The Hobbit with Monty Python. I'm not kidding - you couldn't make this stuff up.

Posted on: 2011/6/18 17:38



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