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Morgan	Pictures of JRRT and JRRT: Artist and Illustrator	#1
Home away from home Joined: 2009/12/14 6:06 From Sweden Group: Shirefolk Posts: 172	Some years ago I was given Christina Scull and Wayne G. Hammond's excellent J.R.R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator (a birthday gift from my dear wife!). Now, I have small question: Did this book include everything unique by JRRT (be it pieces of art or writings) that were already contained in Pictures of J.R.R. Tolkien? As the latter is out-of-print and expensive on ebay and similar, I would like to know if it is worth to try to acquire it (as I'm more of a collector of Tolkien's ideas than his books). I guess there is an answer to my question in the foreword to JRRT: Artist and Illustrator. However, because of my present geographic location, I cannot access that work for the moment. Posted on: 2010/5/22 23:54

Trotter	Re: Pictures of JRRT and JRRT: Artist and Illustrator	#2
Shirrif Joined: 2006/6/5 22:04 From Essex, UK Group: Shirefolk Fellowship Shirrif Posts: 1246	I have just had a quick look at my copy of Pictures and Artist and Illustrator. I think both books are excellent, Pictures because it has some bigger pictures than Artist and Illustrator, but Artist and Illustrator is a much more comprehensive book than Pictures. Did this book include everything unique by JRRT (be it pieces of art or writings) that were already contained in Pictures of J.R.R. Tolkien? No is the answer, as there are some illustrations in Pictures that are not in Artist and Illustrator but all the main ones are and I'm sure that Wayne and Christina can give you a much more detailed answer to your questions. Posted on: 2010/5/23 2:23

garm	Re: Pictures of JRRT and JRRT: Artist and Illustrator	#3
Home away from home Joined: 2007/4/29 5:29 Group: Shirefolk Fellowship Posts: 579	While we're waiting for Christina and Wayne, I wonder if I might venture a response? - Pictures is a collection of works which appeared in calendars published between 1973 and 1979, with a gap in 1975. There are one or two other pieces, which did not feature in the calendars. There are no writings of Tolkien's; the text is limited to a foreword by Christopher, and comments by him on each picture. It's a nice book, but there are problems; the main one being that the colours are not as in the original paintings. Take for instance Conversation with Smaug. The colours are washed out; Smuag's front claw is completely wrong! Posted on: 2010/5/23 4:31

Khamûl	Re: Pictures of JRRT and JRRT: Artist and Illustrator	#4
Shirrif Joined: 2007/8/16 4:56 From Scotland Group: Shirefolk Fellowship Shirrif Posts: 1293	I know, those two are a bit slow! In their absence I'll quote some contemporary comments from Mr Hammond that appeared on rec.arts.books.tolkien (Google Group). Content & quality are the main points... Mon, Nov 13 1995 12:00 am [Artist & Illustrator & Pictures] If by this you mean that there is some art in Pictures that's not in J.R.R. Tolkien, Artist & Illustrator, that's correct. We could have no more than 200 illustrations in the latter book, so opted to include most of those in Pictures, those most important, but not to include others, so that we could publish more art not previously published. We refer to art in Pictures that's not in our book. And yes, smaller format, but for good reason. Or rather, there was a reason why Pictures was in such a large format. Its purpose was to reproduce art previously reproduced in Tolkien calendars. In the process, unfortunately some of Tolkien's pictures were enlarged considerably -- e.g. the unfinished watercolor sketch of the Elvenking's gate, which in the original is quite small. Many also were reproduced with very inaccurate colour. In Artist & Illustrator we were careful never to reproduce Tolkien's art larger than it is in the original, and to achieve the closest colour reproduction possible given the technology (and given that we and HarperCollins were working with a printer far distant, in Hong Kong). Only a dust-jacket design for The Two Towers came out with colour slightly off, due to a bad transparency; this was caught too late to correct. Wayne Hammond & Christina Scull BH Posted on: 2010/5/23 4:44 Edited by Trotter on 2010/5/23 5:42:20 Edited by Trotter on 2010/5/23 5:43:35

Findegil	Re: Pictures of JRRT and JRRT: Artist and Illustrator	#5
Home away from home Joined: 2008/5/21 19:36 Group: Shirefolk Fellowship Posts: 165	Thanks, Garm and Khamul. We spent most of the day working outside, away from the computer. We remembered answering this question before somewhere, and are glad to be reminded where it was. We made very brief comments about Artist and Illustrator and Pictures in the 'Reader's Guide' volume of the Companion and Guide, as well as in the introduction to 'Published Art by J.R.R. Tolkien' in the 'Chronology' volume, but will put a note about it also on our web site. Wayne and Christina Posted on: 2010/5/23 18:43

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