Login

Or
Register Now


Already have an account?
Username:

Password:

Remember me

Lost Your Password?
Main Menu
Collector's Guide Table of Contents
Recent Visitors

tolkienbrasil
4 hours 6 minutes ago

Jlong
6 hours 22 minutes ago

laurel
7 hours 7 minutes ago

wellinghall
7 hours 47 minutes ago

Khamûl
9 hours ago

Trotter
9 hours 46 minutes ago

Karl
11 hours 29 minutes ago

Morgan
17 hours 48 minutes ago

Browsing this Thread:   1 Anonymous Users



« 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 ... 24 »


Re: A nice blog on collecting Tolkien books
Shirrif
Joined:
2007/8/16 4:56
From Scotland
Group:
Shirefolk
Fellowship
Shirrif
Posts: 1526
Offline
Bruffyboy, you have to ask yourself --who is now buying the signed deluxe CoH? The rush at the beggining, as you say, was from all the mad collectors (in the main); some bought a few copies; some of these sales would, undoubtedly, be to dealers too. But with distribution being direct publisher-to-customer the potential for making any money as a dealer was, I assume, pretty low until discounting started kicking in. Once discounting started I think quite a lot of the sales would have been driven by book dealer purchases, not collectors.

So you might ask: why is a title, with a (relatively) small print run, still sitting at only about 2/3rds sold after (& I think you mis-calculate Trotter!; was the deluxe not published in Nov. 2007?) nearly three years? Is Tolkien suddenly unpopular? Was CoH unpopular? I would suggest the main reason is the price (& the title itself; the 'story' is known) --£350 is lot of money for a book; deluxe, leather-bound, or not.

As for value. It will never be worth (your while paying) more than £350 while stock remains with the publisher; obviously (--& one wouldn't even want to pay that now!) And, once it's 'sold out', probably about half the copies will be in the hands of people wanting (either at the time, or at a later date) to sell theirs. It's really about supply & demand. Will there be a couple of hundred people out there wanting to buy a copy and willing to pay £400, £500, or as you suggest, £700? I don't know. Just because someone on ABE has a copy sitting listed at £700, doesn't mean anyone is willing to pay that for it...

BH

Posted on: 2010/8/16 4:18
_________________
You drive a hard bargain – you can have it for £10 all-in – one consolation (for you) is that you do not have to hear the cries of my children, for bread...


Re: A nice blog on collecting Tolkien books
Shirrif
Joined:
2007/8/16 4:56
From Scotland
Group:
Shirefolk
Fellowship
Shirrif
Posts: 1526
Offline
Also, one other thing. Unless someone has actually asked HC how many copies remain, I'm guessing the numbers being sold might be misleading. I took at note of someone selling #333 at some point in late 2009 (I didn't note the month). Some copies may have been sold slightly out of order. Bruffyboy, are you sure the #260 purchase wasn't off eBay?

BH

Posted on: 2010/8/16 4:26
_________________
You drive a hard bargain – you can have it for £10 all-in – one consolation (for you) is that you do not have to hear the cries of my children, for bread...


Re: A nice blog on collecting Tolkien books
Shirrif
Joined:
2006/6/5 22:04
From Essex, England
Group:
Shirefolk
Fellowship
Shirrif
Posts: 1542
Offline
I forgot about this earlier thread on the subject

Stu posted on 1st Jan 2009 Given the 30% discount and GBP 5.00 postage to Aus, I decided to get another copy of the signed CoH to shove under the bed for 25 years. The interesting thing is whether it will beat a bank account in terms of ROI at the end of the period. I'm not convinced it will, but I'll take the punt..! My copy number is 443, so there aren't that many left unsold at this point. I guess they might discount further, but I'm thinking 30% off might be as good as it gets. Having said that, who knows - maybe 40% discount is just around the corner? Stu


As you can see #443 was sold 18 months ago. As far as I can see it is not possible to currently tell how many copies are left from the copy numbers as HarperCollins are clearly not selling them in order.

Posted on: 2010/8/16 6:45


Re: A nice blog on collecting Tolkien books
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2010/7/23 2:59
Group:
Shirefolk
Posts: 88
Offline
I guess you are right Khamul- there may well be a lot of copies for sale in the next five years or so, and prices will be dictated by the size of The market who want that book.

However, just to play devil's advocate: why did the recent signed 1/1 Silmarillion go for over £400? You can buy a 1/1 for £20, so it was clearly the signature that raised the value to around 40x initial publishing price. Now, The CoH has the same signature! Yes it's a newer book, but in ten years it will be considered 'oldish'. Perhaps the main reason the Signed Silmarillion went for £400 was because it is a rarity to find. In five or ten years there will possibly be the same number of sealed CoH around as there are signed Silmarillions, so why wouldn't it go up in value in similar terms? obviously I am looking for just double my money rather than x 40.

The two lovely editions of LotR which came out in 1992 and were signed by Alan Lee (blue single volume deluxe and green three book version) both now command around £1000 too (twice that if shrinkwrapped) so that surely is some proof that deluxes will increase in value? Yes, those particular deluxes were limited to 250 copies, but they weren't signed by CT.

Similarly, the brown leather folio LoTR books are now valued at over £1000, and why? 1750 printed, lovely editions, no sigs, just valuable because of how nice they are.

Oh, and I am not basing any prices on Abe- more eBay and the few specialist Tolkien stores online.

Just food for thought, and again as I already said I am new to this so only really posing suggestions (nothing with authority!)

Posted on: 2010/8/16 8:22

Edited by bruffyboy on 2010/8/16 10:14:52


Re: A nice blog on collecting Tolkien books
Home away from home
Joined:
2007/4/29 5:29
Group:
Shirefolk
Fellowship
Posts: 606
Offline
bruffyboy notes yet again -

"and CT sigs will have gone up in value at least a bit with his passing."

I know bruffyboy says he doesn't mean to be morbid, but I for one feel more than a bit uncomfortable about this sort of talk. Christopher Tolkien is a human being; same as the rest of us. He's also a nice bloke, and the idea of people waiting for his death in order to see the price of their possessions go up in value frankly makes me feel a little sick. Personally, I'd like to see a cap on this sort of thing.

But maybe that's just me.

Posted on: 2010/8/16 9:50



« 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 ... 24 »



You can view topic.
You cannot start a new topic.
You cannot reply to posts.
You cannot edit your posts.
You cannot delete your posts.
You cannot add new polls.
You can vote in polls.
You cannot attach files to posts.
You cannot post without approval.

[Advanced Search]