Essais de Philologie Moderne (1951)
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Essais de Philologie Moderne (1951)

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I have got a question on this book. My copy of 'Essais' is 'uncut'. With this I mean that I cannot turn all the pages because they still stick together in quires (see photo). Does anyone of you has this sort of copy to? And what is the correct term for this (the term I refer to as 'uncut')?

Thomas

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By Gawain

Re: Essais de Philologie Moderne (1951)

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People do refer to this as "uncut" but I think the correct term is "unopened pages". "Uncut" refers to pages that have not been trimmed, ie have ragged edges.


By laurel

Re: Essais de Philologie Moderne (1951)

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hi
Mine is the same and uncut throughout
Must be a common occurence then?


Re: Essais de Philologie Moderne (1951)

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I think the correct term is "untrimmed", most modern books are made of octavo sheets (8vo) which were trimmed at the top.

Wikipedia Octavo (abbreviated 8vo or 8°) is a technical term describing the format of a book, which refers to the size of leaves produced from folding a full sheet of paper on which multiple pages of text were printed to form the individual sections (or gatherings) of a book. An octavo is a book or pamphlet made up of one or more full sheets of paper on which 16 pages of text were printed, which were then folded three times to produce eight leaves. Each leaf of an octavo book thus represents one eighth the size of the original sheet.


Most modern books are still described as "8vo" even if they have nothing to do with the above description in the way they are currently printed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavo

Some US books were not trimmed (do not know why), and it looks like these were also not trimmed properly, not ideal for a reader as it is impossible to read without trimming the top.


Re: Essais de Philologie Moderne (1951)

Sep 6, 2010 - in Books and other printed materials (edited)
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Thanks for your enlightening responses, all of you.
Untrimmed it is then!
And finally I know what '8vo' stands for. I've have come across the term several times but I didn't know what it meant (I don't know why I didn't look it up ).

How about your copies, Gawain and Trotter (and the others who read this, of course)? Are they too untrimmed, like Laurel's and mine?
If find it somewhat annoying that I can't read Tolkien's essay properly...


edit/ I found out that untrimmed, uncut and Deckle Edge actually mean the same thing, i.e. pages that are not cut, with rough edges. The first edition of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is like this for example (well, at least my copy is).
So I don't know if there really is a clear and specific term for the 'phenomenon' I was looking for. Perhaps untrimmed and uncut are the terms that best describe it3
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