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I, as well as some other members, have a profile on tolkienlibrary.com, but I don't have Twitter, Facebook and even a spot on Australian TV about my collection and I would never state some of the claims that Peter Kenny has, not below but to the press
He doesn't seem to make much of a distinction between the written works of Tolkien and the paraphernalia generated by jackson's films.
Yes, I notice this tendency on theoneringnet, too - folk who describe themselves as Tolkien fans, when they mean they're really fans of the movies. As Stu says, horses for courses.
But I'm interested in Kenny's hobbits as shown in the clip above - I too have a Foyles edition; and a 4th imp. I wonder whether his copies have original dust-wrappers, too?
Something which struck me from the article -
"But Kenny ... says his favourite item is not the biggest nor most expensive (that honour is reserved for the one metre square 'Hobbit hole' recently acquired from the UK, sum undisclosed).
Instead, his first edition from the second printing of The Hobbit, which went to press in December 1937 just months after the primary run."
Does this mean that he paid more for a model of Bag End than he did for a Dec. '37 Hobbit? Blimey...
But I'm interested in Kenny's hobbits as shown in the clip above - I too have a Foyles edition; and a 4th imp. I wonder whether his copies have original dust-wrappers, too?
Something which struck me from the article -
"But Kenny ... says his favourite item is not the biggest nor most expensive (that honour is reserved for the one metre square 'Hobbit hole' recently acquired from the UK, sum undisclosed).
Instead, his first edition from the second printing of The Hobbit, which went to press in December 1937 just months after the primary run."
Does this mean that he paid more for a model of Bag End than he did for a Dec. '37 Hobbit? Blimey...
Please don't rediscard all the Australian collectors, there aren't many of us, but still some that consider themsleves serious collectors
I dont know Peter Kenny, I'm sure that he is very proud of his collection. I watched the Collectors program a few weeks ago, and I was a little disappointed that the show concentrated on his movie related items not his books. The two editions of The Hobbit were nice though and I also wondered if the dustjackets were origianl.
I dont collect movie related items and the core of my collection is based on the books listed on Deagol's website. My collection is quite modest having aquired about two thirds of the books on Deagol's site, modest but still proud of what I have collected.
I wanted to collect so I could refer to the original sources and not being reliant on extracts or mis quotations in biographies and articles. I still don't think that this makes my collection more elite than someone collecting movie related items, just different. I must admit some of the statements in Peter Kenny's interview are pretty over the top, especially when you consider some of the collections held by some of the members of this website alone.
So, I am hoping that all Australian collectors aren't being tarred by the same brush, we are around. sometimes not all that vocal and actibe on the web, I haven't post much in the last few years, I have been kept up to date daily on this website, unfortnuately due to some eye surgury over the last year or so, I am a bit restricted (I hope this posting is readable without too many mistakes) but I'm still collecting slowly and hopefully in the future I might be able to get back to being more active on this site.
Dior
I dont know Peter Kenny, I'm sure that he is very proud of his collection. I watched the Collectors program a few weeks ago, and I was a little disappointed that the show concentrated on his movie related items not his books. The two editions of The Hobbit were nice though and I also wondered if the dustjackets were origianl.
I dont collect movie related items and the core of my collection is based on the books listed on Deagol's website. My collection is quite modest having aquired about two thirds of the books on Deagol's site, modest but still proud of what I have collected.
I wanted to collect so I could refer to the original sources and not being reliant on extracts or mis quotations in biographies and articles. I still don't think that this makes my collection more elite than someone collecting movie related items, just different. I must admit some of the statements in Peter Kenny's interview are pretty over the top, especially when you consider some of the collections held by some of the members of this website alone.
So, I am hoping that all Australian collectors aren't being tarred by the same brush, we are around. sometimes not all that vocal and actibe on the web, I haven't post much in the last few years, I have been kept up to date daily on this website, unfortnuately due to some eye surgury over the last year or so, I am a bit restricted (I hope this posting is readable without too many mistakes) but I'm still collecting slowly and hopefully in the future I might be able to get back to being more active on this site.
Dior
Heh - don't worry; we're not in the business of tarring folk around here. As a matter of fact, I've just been looking at Peter's profile on Beren's Tolkien Library site; and, as one might expect, there's a difference in tone between this account in Peter's own words, and the account as written by the newspaper reporter.
A couple of things took my attention; firstly, Peter moved away from movies memorabilia around 2007, and concentrated more on the books. Another is that he had the opportunity to show his collection in a month-long exhibition sponsored by the Queensland State Library. I'd very much like to have such an opportunity myself - I enjoy showing the collecition to froends, and it would be really good to be able to get it across to more people. But in the case of a public exhibition security would be a major concern. My ambition will have to remain a pipe-dream, I suppose.
A couple of things took my attention; firstly, Peter moved away from movies memorabilia around 2007, and concentrated more on the books. Another is that he had the opportunity to show his collection in a month-long exhibition sponsored by the Queensland State Library. I'd very much like to have such an opportunity myself - I enjoy showing the collecition to froends, and it would be really good to be able to get it across to more people. But in the case of a public exhibition security would be a major concern. My ambition will have to remain a pipe-dream, I suppose.
Looking at the video, I think the 1946 Hobbit has an original Dust Jacket (you get to see the damaged spine at one point), but the Foyle's Hobbit I don't think is original. I have never seen a copy of this book with that good an original dust-jacket.
Peter, if you are reading these posts then please join the community, you have an excellent collection that a lot of members would love to be able to own themselves.
Peter, if you are reading these posts then please join the community, you have an excellent collection that a lot of members would love to be able to own themselves.
I am sure Peter would not mind, so I am going to upload a photo of the 4th Hobbit and dustjacket. Has a couple of areas with some loss, but a very nice copy.
Also I've added a few few photo's of different copies of the 3rd Book Club Hobbit. I don't have photo's of one that was the best of all of these, but a gentleman purchased it from me before I was able to take photo's one day, much to my regret. But thought you might enjoy seeing the dustjackets on these. I don't believe any of these are the one in Peters Collection.
David
Also I've added a few few photo's of different copies of the 3rd Book Club Hobbit. I don't have photo's of one that was the best of all of these, but a gentleman purchased it from me before I was able to take photo's one day, much to my regret. But thought you might enjoy seeing the dustjackets on these. I don't believe any of these are the one in Peters Collection.
David
Very nice - thanks, dunedain. I've just got my own copies off the shelf: the books themselves are in lovely condition; the dust-wrappers have done their job in keeping the cloth nice and fresh (esp. the 4th imp.).
The wrappers themselves are both complete; the flaps are good. There are one or two chips, but that's to be expected - the paper feels a little bit brittle. The 4th. imp. has chips at either side of the top of the spine, which don't intrude into the picture of the Lonely Mountain, but there's a chunk out of the bottom of the spine which has taken away all of the 'Allen & Unwin' logo except for the 'Geo' and the 'An' - and the bottom half of the 'n' is missing, too.
The Foyles ed. is a shade lighter than the one in dunedain's pictures, and there's a chip out of the lower right part of the 'Dandified hobbit' picture; just to the right of the 'n' in 'Tolkien'. There's another chip tp the top left of the picture, and some 'nibbling' to both the top and the bottom of the picture.
But I'm making it sound worse than it is; both the dustwrappers are very good for their age, and the colouring of the 4th imp. wrapper is everything I could wish. These are, after all, first editions of The Hobbit; and having dustwrappers - esp. such nice examples as these are - is a wonderful bonus. (none of my other copies have wrappers).
The wrappers themselves are both complete; the flaps are good. There are one or two chips, but that's to be expected - the paper feels a little bit brittle. The 4th. imp. has chips at either side of the top of the spine, which don't intrude into the picture of the Lonely Mountain, but there's a chunk out of the bottom of the spine which has taken away all of the 'Allen & Unwin' logo except for the 'Geo' and the 'An' - and the bottom half of the 'n' is missing, too.
The Foyles ed. is a shade lighter than the one in dunedain's pictures, and there's a chip out of the lower right part of the 'Dandified hobbit' picture; just to the right of the 'n' in 'Tolkien'. There's another chip tp the top left of the picture, and some 'nibbling' to both the top and the bottom of the picture.
But I'm making it sound worse than it is; both the dustwrappers are very good for their age, and the colouring of the 4th imp. wrapper is everything I could wish. These are, after all, first editions of The Hobbit; and having dustwrappers - esp. such nice examples as these are - is a wonderful bonus. (none of my other copies have wrappers).
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