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Unfinished Tales Hardcover from 2000
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By remy

Re: Unfinished Tales Hardcover from 2000

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Well Stu, I think you did get lucky (if I remember correctly - maybe it was a different auction).

I was going to bid around £200 on an auction a couple of years ago for this book (think it was from a Seller - David Somebody in the UK). For various reasons - I forgot about the auction (could not believe I forgot about the end date considering how badly I wanted the book and I think the book was listed in the Collectibles Category rather than Books Category so visibility was low). Anyway was even more devasted when I saw it went for £39 or £40 if I remember correctly.

I think this may be the auction that you won.

Anyway, ended up getting a copy a year later (was included in a set of 10 HoME Books for auction that I won). So all well in the end!!!

Was this the auction you won?


By Stu

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remy wrote:
Well Stu, I think you did get lucky (if I remember correctly - maybe it was a different auction).

I was going to bid around £200 on an auction a couple of years ago for this book (think it was from a Seller - David Somebody in the UK). For various reasons - I forgot about the auction (could not believe I forgot about the end date considering how badly I wanted the book and I think the book was listed in the Collectibles Category rather than Books Category so visibility was low). Anyway was even more devasted when I saw it went for £39 or £40 if I remember correctly.

I think this may be the auction that you won.

Anyway, ended up getting a copy a year later (was included in a set of 10 HoME Books for auction that I won). So all well in the end!!!

Was this the auction you won?



Just checked my Paypal - Was in May 2008, from a David Crombie in the UK. Price was GBP 40.55. I'm *really* glad you forgot to bid on it !! :) :)

Edit: But also glad you got a copy in the end!!

Stu

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By laurel

Re: Unfinished Tales Hardcover from 2000

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LOL
I can see why your book buying days are now restricted. Nice . Careful of the sunlight though-I would have thought keeping on a bookcase would be better
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Hahaha!

Great picture Stu!
I see you finally got your Lotus. Looking nice!
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By Stu

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laurel wrote:
LOL
I can see why your book buying days are now restricted. Nice . Careful of the sunlight though-I would have thought keeping on a bookcase would be better


You know, I suggested that to my wife and she steadfastly refuses me to let me put the Lotus in the lounge !


FreiWild wrote:
Hahaha!

Great picture Stu!
I see you finally got your Lotus. Looking nice!


Thanks :) I collect "nerdy books", so I figured I needed a "nerdy car" to match :)


Re: Unfinished Tales Hardcover from 2000

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Nerdy car indeed. Very nice it is Stu. On to more pressing matters...

The only historical eBay prices that I've noted are:-

Sept 2009 - £8 (~VG)
Aug 2009 - £32 (~VG)
Feb 2009 - £129 (~VG)
May 2008 - £41 (Stu's copy)

Don't see any earlier, but I probably wasn't too aware of the copy pre-2006.

Why (I'm just curious) do you all assume this is a real rarity, when the only basis for this view is market availablility? Yes, it doesn't seem to turn up that often --but does anyone actually know how many were printed? (Genuinely: does anyone?) If the print run was as for MR, or WotJ, or PoME --then there are many copies out there, and not that many people after them. This is not truly rare, just scarce to market.

Any bets another comes up really soon though; it always happens. (Although, with all this talk, it will probably go for more! )

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By Stu

Re: Unfinished Tales Hardcover from 2000

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Khamul wrote:
Nerdy car indeed. Very nice it is Stu. On to more pressing matters...

The only historical eBay prices that I've noted are:-

Sept 2009 - £8 (~VG)
Aug 2009 - £32 (~VG)
Feb 2009 - £129 (~VG)
May 2008 - £41 (Stu's copy)

Don't see any earlier, but I probably wasn't too aware of the copy pre-2006.

Why (I'm just curious) do you all assume this is a real rarity, when the only basis for this view is market availablility? Yes, it doesn't seem to turn up that often --but does anyone actually know how many were printed? (Genuinely: does anyone?) If the print run was as for MR, or WotJ, or PoME --then there are many copies out there, and not that many people after them. This is not truly rare, just scarce to market.

Any bets another comes up really soon though; it always happens. (Although, with all this talk, it will probably go for more! )

BH


I would also not have had awareness of this copy prior to 2005/2006 or thereabouts, so wasn't looking prior to this. I'm also not too much of an eBay addict, so I'm certainly not on there all the time (but this is one of the books I do double-check for when I am on).

I'm not aware of any factual information regarding print numbers. I have posed the question before, but noone put their hand up with any information on this. Might be a question for David Brawn at some point.
The other important thing to remember about this book is it shares its ISBN with copies that do not have the same dust jacket, so there may be copies sold with stock photos that are indeed this specific edition, we just don't notice them.

Having said that, generally speaking if a non-consumable item is produced in large volumes it will turn up often on the second hand market, whilst if it is uncommon it will turn up rarely. It seems *unlikely* that this was produced in large numbers based on the evidence of the frequency that books of known print runs turn up. For instance we know the print run of PoME was quite large and it turns up all the time (despite sellers assertions of it being rare). With this one, anecdotally we seem not to have noticed it so often.


Stu


By laurel

Re: Unfinished Tales Hardcover from 2000

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A good debate and one I am sure will reappear in the future especially as you say Khamul if another copy comes for sale.
Interestingly if you take average over last 3-4 years these appear once every 11-12 months vs POME say 4-5+ per year. That is telling me something but a good question for David to be sure.

My hunt will continue
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Another one of the not very rare 2000 hardbacks on eBay.


eBay Item #170763198167



By Gawain

Re: Unfinished Tales Hardcover from 2000

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One just appeared on ebay

eBay Item #170763198167




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