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Re: Amazon.co.uk has Children of Húrin Super Deluxe
Home away from home
2006/6/2 14:15
Posts: 347
I did arrange a deal for European customers before the day of the sale and did manage to order 'a lot' of copies for many Tolkien collectors on the European continent before the shop opened up. I was not aware then that they would not open up at all for the US and so did not ask more. I did spent a huge amount of money to be able to help out a lot of Tolkien collectors over here... since I was at that time only aware of the fact that they would only sell to the UK. So I did what I could do at that time and bought straight from HarperCollins and with the high postal and insurance costs the copies I arranged for the collectors over here turned out to be much more expensive then £350.

If I receive an order of 5 or more US collectors (that is 10 copies in total) I can of course do the same thing for the US collectors, but be aware that the copies will become more expensive then £350. If the order is large enough, I'm sure I will be able to arrange another deal with HarperCollins.

Posted on: 2007/11/25 3:27

Re: Amazon.co.uk has Children of Húrin Super Deluxe
2007/8/16 4:56
From Scotland
Posts: 1751
But why should you have to do this Pieter? It's nice that you want to; and without dealers/collectors prepared to dig deep into their pockets (like you to the tune of ££££'s, even £££££'s) some people just wouldn't get a copy!

But HC is a huge company, who should have forseen this situation. Why did they want to set up an exclusive site, then have to rely on other dealers to distribute to those outside the UK?

Yes, they responded admirably to the initial complaints, and quickly set up a contact for those non-UK customers. But, why the surprise!? As if Tolkien is some nobody that nobody collects! Have they never typed Tolkien into Ebay or something? We have collectors spending thousands of pounds a year on their collections -was this problem seriously not forseen?

Baring in mind that HM probably won't do a US version (any noises on that Pieter?; they never did any other US versions before did they?), what else were US collectors going to do?

Again, having said all this, the 500 don't appear to have sold out yet! I was pretty worried (on the 19th) when I got in to see that the email had been sent that moring. I really thought they'd all have gone.

Anyone any thoughts on the 'Collection' as well? Four Deluxe editions that most people already have; no other extra features except the slipcase to house them all in; and, LotRs isn't even a 1rst! I think they should have held back 500 LotRs 1st impressions for this set. You could go out and buy all the editions new for less that £200 in any case -could the price not have been a bit more competitive?


Posted on: 2007/11/25 4:22
You drive a hard bargain – you can have it for £10 all-in – one consolation (for you) is that you do not have to hear the cries of my children, for bread...

Re: Amazon.co.uk has Children of Húrin Super Deluxe
Home away from home
2006/6/4 4:17
From UK
Posts: 420
I have had a look on Amazon.com and you can't buy the HarperCollins edition. If you search for the UK ISBN number then the US edition comes up. It's not available at Barnes & Noble either.

I think the reason behind HarperCollins selling the super deluxe edition itself is down to money. If they distribute it via a company like Amazon then they have to give them a large discount on the retail price (say 30% or 40%). If they sell direct they keep 100%. The discount is a lot of money for a book like the super deluxe Children of Hurin.

The deluxe collection is 200 GBP compared to a combined retail price of 280 GBP, so it discounted by about 30%.

Posted on: 2007/11/25 11:35

Re: Amazon.co.uk has Children of Húrin Super Deluxe
I have to agree with Deagol. The choice of distribution mechanism is simply a way of avoiding the normal retail markup (which I am guessing is probably closer to 50%). Looking at 500 copies for GBP350 each, that adds up to GBP 87,500 extra coming in the coffers by selling direct.

All in all, it's been a bit of a hassle (I have one copy going to my fiance's parents in the UK and a second copy coming out direct to Australia), but hopefully the quality of the book will justify the trouble (having not seen any 'real' photos of the book, time will tell ! At least we know the pages are printed cleanly on reasonable quality paper - I remember getting the quarter-leather Silmarillion and being surprised to find that it seemed to be printed on toilet paper with a dot-matrix! :) )

I do wonder how long it will take to sell out. I don't think there are that many collectors out there prepared to spend that kind of money, and despite the fact that many of them are purchasing a copy to own and a speculative copy to sell on later, I think it may be available for a little while yet...


Posted on: 2007/11/25 17:26

Re: Amazon.co.uk has Children of Húrin Super Deluxe
2006/6/5 22:04
From Essex, England
Posts: 2068
Out of interest I added up the current prices on Amazon.co.uk for the 4 books in the J.R.R. Tolkien Box Set which is being sold for £200 by HC direct. They are £214 from Amazon with current discounts, both have free delivery.

I do struggle to see who this set is aimed at as I expect most collectors would already have first impressions of these books and will not spend £200 on a second set which really just includes a second slipcase and not even first impression books.

Posted on: 2007/11/26 9:14

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