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3 Mar, 2024
2024-3-3 10:30:11 AM UTC
Cool sighting Mr.Underhill.
29 Jul, 2024 (edited)
2024-7-29 10:43:10 PM UTC

Cynewulf and His Poetry


Lecture by Kenneth Sisam

I collect Tolkien, but I also have a keen interest in the work of his friends and contemporaries as well. Some of his colleagues, especially from his early career that I have done much work on is E.V. Gordon and Kenneth Sisam. While looking around online I found some information from garm on a Sisam volume that I had not seen before, he pointed me in a few directions and eventually this lead me to a specific query from the time is was produced. I found an answer in this letter from Tolkien to E.V. Gordon, mostly about work on Pearl, TCG Letter #1374. Tolkien is replying to a letter from Gordon, in which Kenneth Sisam comes up.

Tolkien here says about Sisam's lecture on Cynewulf and his Poetry: "Of course, I personally have never thought Sisam too good in that line either – though he is very learned and within limits acute (though not very penetrative). But then I have never got over the Cynewulf lecture, which I thought deplorable."

As we know he was notorious for missing deadlines; sometimes months or even years would pass before he would produce something for publication to the shagrin on many of his contemporaries. Here is a snippet from a 1953 letter from Sisam: “Tolkien is a rogue. He has had Middle English Studies held up for 20 years… and his time is given to fairy stories”.

Anyway I managed in my hunting for more information, to find a copy of the lecture delivered by Sisam in 1932, four years before Tolkien's famous Beowulf lecture!
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29 Jul, 2024 (edited)
2024-7-29 10:55:32 PM UTC
Congrats Mr. Underhill. What an awesome addition to your collection.

I love Sisam's frankness on Tolkien at times. Tolkien certainly tested his patience, especially as he worked so much more effectively in his various roles only to have a job he probably should have been awarded snatched away from him by none other than Tolkien.

On the 1953 letter, do we have that in our Guide? I didn't see it.

EDIT: I see that it is in Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings – Sources of Inspiration and noted by H&S in their latest updates. I thought we had all of those added. I will add it to my list.
29 Jul, 2024 (edited)
2024-7-29 11:13:57 PM UTC

onthetrail wrote:


On the 1953 letter, do we have that in our Guide? I didn't see it.

I believe it can be found in Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings – Sources of Inspiration published by Walking Tree in ‘08 specifically the essay: "The Word as Leaf: Perspectives on Tolkien as Lexicographer and Philologist" by Peter Gilliver, Edmund Weiner, and Jeremy Marshall. I’m working on getting a copy to see what else can be added as well 😅, so it’s on my list too

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29 Jul, 2024
2024-7-29 11:29:33 PM UTC

Mr. Underhill wrote:

onthetrail wrote:


On the 1953 letter, do we have that in our Guide? I didn't see it.

I believe it can be found in Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings – Sources of Inspiration published by Walking Tree in ‘08 specifically the essay: "The Word as Leaf: Perspectives on Tolkien as Lexicographer and Philologist" by Peter Gilliver, Edmund Weiner, and Jeremy Marshall. I’m working on getting a copy to see what else can be added as well 😅, so it’s on my list too

I have the volume but it has been boxed up for a number of years due to lack of space. I will dig out soon.
30 Jul, 2024
2024-7-30 12:58:31 AM UTC
excellent Mr.Underhill. What a great find!
30 Jul, 2024
2024-7-30 2:54:49 AM UTC
What's the copyright line on that lecture? Will it be public domain in 4 years time (given that 1928 works entered PD this year)? Or is it a matter of wondering about renewal etc?
30 Jul, 2024
2024-7-30 4:58:02 AM UTC

DMRoberts wrote:

What's the copyright line on that lecture? Will it be public domain in 4 years time (given that 1928 works entered PD this year)? Or is it a matter of wondering about renewal etc?

In the US, it should Public Domain in 4 years time, in the UK it will probably be Public Domain in 2041.
30 Jul, 2024
2024-7-30 3:32:49 PM UTC
Excellent addition and thanks for the background information, Mr. Underhill!
31 Jul, 2024
2024-7-31 3:41:51 PM UTC
Very nice addition!
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