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Rebinding Project needs advice from an expert!
Aug 13
2019/8/13 19:31:16 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
2019/8/13 19:31:16 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Hi, I first read the Hobbit and LOTR when I was 5, but I felt a real connection to it when I learned that my Grandfather bound Tolkien's personal copy of the Silmarillion. I am sure this means little to others, but it has inspired me to get on and do something I have been keen to for years but haven't known how to get started.
I want to bind my own collection of Tolkien books to my own spec, for my own pleasure, and should they come out nicely, something to pass to my son as and when.
To do this I need one of you fine ladies and gentlemen with more knowledge than I to help me collect a set of isbns for each of Tolkien's middle earth related books which fulfil the following criteria:
1. Are all the same size (The pages not the binding as I will be replacing that)
2. Are printed well on the nicest paper possible
3. Are illustrated if possible
4. Are not collectors items (everything is a collectors item if you try hard enough, but let's be reasonable about it - I'm not gonna rebind a first Ed copy of LOTR unless it is literally missing its original cover and even then I would find someone with more experience!)
In addition, I would prefer it if LotR was one volume and the history of middle earth was 3, but its not a deal breaker.
Its a big ask, and it's not something I can figure out without having physical access to a range of different printings, but I bet it is possible.
Thanks in advance, I really appreciate it.
James
I want to bind my own collection of Tolkien books to my own spec, for my own pleasure, and should they come out nicely, something to pass to my son as and when.
To do this I need one of you fine ladies and gentlemen with more knowledge than I to help me collect a set of isbns for each of Tolkien's middle earth related books which fulfil the following criteria:
1. Are all the same size (The pages not the binding as I will be replacing that)
2. Are printed well on the nicest paper possible
3. Are illustrated if possible
4. Are not collectors items (everything is a collectors item if you try hard enough, but let's be reasonable about it - I'm not gonna rebind a first Ed copy of LOTR unless it is literally missing its original cover and even then I would find someone with more experience!)
In addition, I would prefer it if LotR was one volume and the history of middle earth was 3, but its not a deal breaker.
Its a big ask, and it's not something I can figure out without having physical access to a range of different printings, but I bet it is possible.
Thanks in advance, I really appreciate it.
James
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Remy, this is just wonderful! My grandmother recalls him doing a small number for "Tolkien and his family or loved ones", I think it is highly likely that these photos show one of that batch as it doesn't seem to be bound like the first Ed copies were. There are two more features which my grandfather described to me many years ago when prompted by his wife (he was very careful to be humble to the point of others frustration)... That it was printed on the sort of paper you get in bibles (I forget the correct term) and that it was gold edged. This looks to meet those criteria.
Even looking at those photos brings a lump to my throat. I am under no illusions that I could ever own one of these but to have even seen the photo is really truly wonderful. I feel so blessed.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I now know how I will bind my collection, even if it takes me a decade of practice to be good enough to hold a candle to his work.
Even looking at those photos brings a lump to my throat. I am under no illusions that I could ever own one of these but to have even seen the photo is really truly wonderful. I feel so blessed.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I now know how I will bind my collection, even if it takes me a decade of practice to be good enough to hold a candle to his work.
@deagol, good to know. I would be happy to ditch the illustrations if it meant that I could build a matching sized set.
The book in the photos is not printed on bible paper - it would be much thinner. Bible paper reduces LR to 1 inch thick. 1000 sets of sheets of the first edition were printed on higher quality paper than the trade edition. These were bound in red leather in 1982, but some could have been set aside for the family.
If you want all of the books to be matching size, you may be best going for current standard hardback editions and buy them in a bricks and mortar shop rather than online so you can check them against each other.
If you want all of the books to be matching size, you may be best going for current standard hardback editions and buy them in a bricks and mortar shop rather than online so you can check them against each other.
@Deagol Sure thing, I'm going by 40+ year old memories, and my own recollection of a conversation 20 years ago, so it wouldnt suprise me if that was simply wrong.
On balance I would say it is likely that this is the binding because of the date and the fact that it was gifted by Christopher Tolkien. Im open to being proven wrong though.
Re. Finding the right sizes, I'm gonna have to do that ultimately I think - it's tricky to find a shop with a wide enough range to encompass all the Tolkien middle earth works in a range of editions, but next time I'm in a large bookshop in a city I will give it a shot (:
On balance I would say it is likely that this is the binding because of the date and the fact that it was gifted by Christopher Tolkien. Im open to being proven wrong though.
Re. Finding the right sizes, I'm gonna have to do that ultimately I think - it's tricky to find a shop with a wide enough range to encompass all the Tolkien middle earth works in a range of editions, but next time I'm in a large bookshop in a city I will give it a shot (:
That's very nice. If I was doing a custom binding of the Sil, I think I might well follow that pattern.
Stu wrote:
That's very nice. If I was doing a custom binding of the Sil, I think I might well follow that pattern.
I have to agree that is a really nice binding, JamesTMS, that is a lovely binding and really hope it was done by your grandfather, you probably need to contact Clowes to see if they have any records about bindings that he did
I'm not trying to push you down a route, but if I was going to do this kind of project I would go for 70s editions of S, H, LR and TB, etc with reprints of the 12 volume History series. It would be more expensive to do but, for me, it would be closer to the books of the period your grandfather was with the business.
@Trotter I shall do that. Whether they still have or would give the info out is another matter but it would be great to get a fuller picture of his work, in particular how many bindings of the Silmarillion he did.
@Deagol Thats a nice idea actually. I have made some progress because Hodder and Stoughton have trim sizes listed on their website which is super handy...This means that I know that the 2002 complete history will match in size with their 50th anniversary LR, their classic hardback hobbit and their deluxe edition Silmarillion. No matches for Tom Bombadil though. I'll need to see 70's editions in person I think to check trim size and compile a matching set.
@Deagol Thats a nice idea actually. I have made some progress because Hodder and Stoughton have trim sizes listed on their website which is super handy...This means that I know that the 2002 complete history will match in size with their 50th anniversary LR, their classic hardback hobbit and their deluxe edition Silmarillion. No matches for Tom Bombadil though. I'll need to see 70's editions in person I think to check trim size and compile a matching set.
