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St George device

2 Mar
2023/3/2 20:49:53 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia

I flipped trough my old first editions of LotR and noticed the St George device pictured below. In FotR it appears in my 6th from -56 and 8th from -59 but not in the 12th from -62.
Does anyone know how long it was used and which were the last impressions to have it?

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2 Mar
2023/3/2 20:57:57 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
I believe that it comes from the logo for the publisher George Allen, which was then modified for George Allen & Unwin, when it was bought by Sir Stanley Unwin during WWI.

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3 Mar
2023/3/3 11:58:09 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
FoTR on my shelf -
3rd St George device
4th St George device
7th St George device
8th St George device
8th in a 9th dustwrapper - No St George device
10th St George device
11th St George device
12th No St George device
13th No St George device
14th No St George device
15th No St George device

I can't explain the anomaly of the 8th in a 9th dustwrapper - No St George device.

This has reminded me that I am missing the 5th, 6th and 9th impressions, so if anyone has spares of these, please contact me!

(There is a similar trend in TT and RoTK but I haven't checked every copy that I have.)
3 Mar
2023/3/3 15:28:43 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Your 8th in a 9th dustwrapper is most likely the 1960 9th with the printers error of dropping the 8th printing of 1959. Noted in The Tolkien Collector #20
3 Mar
2023/3/3 16:56:27 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
So I (probably) have got a 9th after all! Thanks for the useful information, dunedain.
5 Mar
2023/3/5 12:32:47 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Isn't it at the back? 13th impression on page 424 along with the addresses
5 Mar
2023/3/5 12:48:11 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia

billhinge wrote:

Isn't it at the back? 13th impression on page 424 along with the addresses

I think the logo is at the back of all the impressions on the address page.
5 Mar
2023/3/5 13:36:02 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia

Roccondil wrote:

FoTR on my shelf -
3rd St George device
4th St George device
7th St George device
8th St George device
8th in a 9th dustwrapper - No St George device
10th St George device
11th St George device
12th No St George device
13th No St George device
14th No St George device
15th No St George device

I can't explain the anomaly of the 8th in a 9th dustwrapper -

My 8th in a 9th wrapper has the St George device. Is your half title page missing, or is it present but without the device?

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5 Mar
2023/3/5 17:43:23 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Here's a couple of pics of my 8th in a 9th dustwrapper. As you can see, it is quite clear. There is no St George device on the title page.

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6 Mar
2023/3/6 18:20:20 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Hello Roccondil,
It looks like your's is an Eighth in a Ninth Dustjacket. If it was the printers error it would look like the attached 9th in a 9th dustjacket (showing Eighth in 1960 printing)

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