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Feb 16, 2009 (edited)

Having just spent a lot of money on what I think is a rare item, eBay often comes up trumps with what can only be described as What????

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50th-Anniversar ... |65%3A3|39%3A1|240%3A1318
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Nov 12, 2018
Seller: odeo-au (154603)
Ended Mar 2, 2019
Buy-It-Now:
AU $5.00
Nov 12, 2018
(edited)
Seller: cricket150262 (881)
Ended Nov 19, 2018
£50.00
[0 Bids]
Is this signed by Christopher Tolkien? No. It might be signed by someone called Chris. Maybe. Worth putting all that in the listing though, just to be sure...

eBay Item #283256772474

EDIT: Previously titled The Silmarillion By J R R Tolkien 1st Ed 1977 Signed By Chris Tolkien.?; including blurb about not being able to say if the Chris in question is "Chris Tolkien". Now amended.
Nov 12, 2018
Khamûl:
That's not Christopher Tolkien's signature. It's not even that clear the signature says Chris.

cricket150262:
That's why I said I couldn't validate signiture still a cheap book compared for that edition with some others the same on eBay

Khamûl:
Why mention it then? You'd be as well adding that you don't think it's signed by his father.

cricket150262:
What's your problem I said I couldn't validate signiture get a life


Nov 12, 2018
Well thumbs up from me badgering the seller into updating the listing at least!
Nov 17, 2018
Seller: dursrudyauctions (1063)
Ended Jan 11, 2019
Buy-It-Now:
$1,400.00
Nov 20, 2018
Seller: gabriellez0 (48)
Ended Dec 22, 2018
Buy-It-Now:
$400.00
eBay Item #123490611984

"I have tried to deceive the item as best I can". ROFL - Freudian slip?

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Nov 20, 2018
Is it still possible for a seller trading on eBay to have & enforce a blanket "no return policy"? Distance selling laws cover Buy-it-now auctions; but for normal open auctions is it still allowed?
Nov 20, 2018
See my entire thread on this. I would say NO. In my case the buyer did finally get banned but eBay has not decided to return my 900 dollars. Everything I have read indicates the No Returns policy is toothless and any "Not as Described" claim will side in the buyer's favor. I do wonder if local laws apply. I would assume so. But in the US forget it.
Nov 20, 2018
So are you saying this is good or bad? I've always taken a fairly dim view of sellers with stated no return policies; since in most cases this appears to be in breach of eBay's own rules. Therefore, why are they selling on eBay? But that's just my view as a buyer. Having heard your horror story I'm beginning to understand why sellers need protection too.

I'm still confused though: do you think you can have a no returns policy as a seller?
Nov 20, 2018
No, you cannot have a proper 'no returns' policy. Sellers love to write 'sold as is', but this is meaningless. With eBay's guarantees nothing can be 'sold as is'. If the buyer finds that their purchase is 'not as described' then they can return it 100% of the time. The seller must stand by their description.

Using 'sold as is' usually implies that they want the buyer to take a chance purchasing their item at a lower price. So if there is, for example, a first edition Hobbit that looks perfect externally, the seller may want to list it as being in 'Very Good, clean' condition, and state 'sold as is' so that they don't have to flip through every page ensuring the condition. But if the buyer then finds ten pages with ink on them 'sold as is' won't hold up, they will be able to return it at the seller's expense. Sellers must be responsible for their descriptions. eBay does side with buyers too readily, but generally speaking this is a good policy, it protects buyers from being scammed.

But the seller does have the option to list an item with 'no returns'. This only means that if the buyer changes their mind about the item they cannot then return it (unless it is 'not as described').
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