
17 Sep, 2022
2022/9/17 3:34:04 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
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Ulmo wrote:
Hey, all, I’m hoping to collect deluxe copies of:
1. Children of Húrin
2. Sigurd and Gudrún
3. Beowulf
4. Kullervo
How many European impressions did #1 have? I assume #2 only had one Euopean impression, the same as #3. #4 never had a Eurpoean impression, and the second impression might actually be an improvement, is that correct?
When you say European impressions, you mean UK HarperCollins copies? Because if you don't mind reprints these can still all be bought new from our affiliate store.

17 Sep, 2022
2022/9/17 5:14:34 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
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I do mean the HarperCollins deluxe editions, but specifically I mean copies of the books which have been printed and bound in Europe, as opposed to China. The better quality books.

17 Sep, 2022
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Regarding the first 3, I'm almost 100% sure that that only first prints are printed and bound in Europe.
And yes, the 2nd printing of Kulkervo (which still states "1" on the copyright page) is better (aligned title on the spine, slipcase better produced)
And yes, the 2nd printing of Kulkervo (which still states "1" on the copyright page) is better (aligned title on the spine, slipcase better produced)

17 Sep, 2022
2022/9/17 9:52:51 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
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My memory might be shot, but I think I have a 7th printing UT from L.E.G.O. Maybe i'm mixing it up with Rotolito. Just struck me as strange after reading Bergelmirs list. Will check when I get home again next week.

17 Sep, 2022
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Printed in Europe doesn't always equal better. I would point out the deluxe HoME 1st print disaster or the Kullevro mess which were fixed with the 2nd prints from China...oh and there was the mother of all screw ups, the deluxe LOTR from last year.
It's true, the problem we've seen with the Chinese printers is their QC, (Fall of Arthur 2nd prints come to mind) however I think it's a fallacy that books printed in Europe are automatically better than books printed somewhere else. As we've seen, European printers are just as susceptible to issues as Chinese printers.
The deluxe series 1st prints are pretty much all bound by L.E.G.O SPA in Italy (which is a great printer) but the reprints which do come from Europe tend to be bound by ROTOLITO in Italy which have had major QC issues as of late.
It's true, the problem we've seen with the Chinese printers is their QC, (Fall of Arthur 2nd prints come to mind) however I think it's a fallacy that books printed in Europe are automatically better than books printed somewhere else. As we've seen, European printers are just as susceptible to issues as Chinese printers.
The deluxe series 1st prints are pretty much all bound by L.E.G.O SPA in Italy (which is a great printer) but the reprints which do come from Europe tend to be bound by ROTOLITO in Italy which have had major QC issues as of late.

17 Sep, 2022
2022/9/17 14:26:08 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
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Mr. Underhill wrote:
Printed in Europe doesn't always equal better. I would point out the deluxe HoME 1st print disaster or the Kullevro mess which were fixed with the 2nd prints from China...oh and there was the mother of all screw ups, the deluxe LOTR from last year.
It's true, the problem we've seen with the Chinese printers is their QC, (Fall of Arthur 2nd prints come to mind) however I think it's a fallacy that books printed in Europe are automatically better than books printed somewhere else. As we've seen, European printers are just as susceptible to issues as Chinese printers.
The deluxe series 1st prints are pretty much all bound by L.E.G.O SPA in Italy (which is a great printer) but the reprints which do come from Europe tend to be bound by ROTOLITO in Italy which have had major QC issues as of late.
The correction of the Home 2017 1st print disaster was done by LEGO S.P.A, not in China. By the way, lego produced this set till the 4th printing before Rotolito takes over.
I would say that from the late 2010' till last year (LotR deluxe mess) we can assume that Tolkien books printed and bound in Europe was better in quality compared to the chinese reprints, by far.