Dealers flipping books...
Sep 1, 2021
(edited)
2021/9/1 22:18:39 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Edited by Stu on 2021/9/27 19:31:19
2021/9/1 22:18:39 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
This thread is to capture where the same book is rapidly resold on eBay or similar. This practice of "flipping" can create quite a distorted view of the market when books are uncommon, and it is good to create a record so people don't just see the book being on eBay long-term, but also see the price paid by the flipper under real auction conditions (usually).
Let's keep this thread factual and not too much commentary.
Let's keep this thread factual and not too much commentary.

Sep 1, 2021
(edited)
2021/9/1 22:19:11 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Edited by Stu on 2021/9/9 20:37:25
2021/9/1 22:19:11 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Courtesy of Mr. Underhill:
1942 Hobbit, £1,173 at auction -> £3,995 when being flipped.
Current selling price
What the dealer bought it for.
1942 Hobbit, £1,173 at auction -> £3,995 when being flipped.
Current selling price
Seller: dogfark
(2357)
Ended Sep 12, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
£3,995.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: Mr. Underhill
What the dealer bought it for.
Seller: sniffsniffping60
(1407)
Ended Aug 30, 2021
£1,173.00
[48 Bids]
Submitted by: Trotter

Sep 9, 2021
(edited)
2021/9/9 20:22:52 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Edited by Stu on 2021/9/9 20:36:15
Edited by Stu on 2021/9/9 20:36:57
Edited by Stu on 2021/9/9 20:37:47
Edited by Stu on 2021/9/9 20:36:57
Edited by Stu on 2021/9/9 20:37:47
2021/9/9 20:22:52 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
2nd Impression Hobbit £23,000 (+ approximately £6000 buyers fees). -> £65,000 when being flipped.
Purchased at open auction 27th July 2021
https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... hp?topic_id=4134&start=10
Advertised for sale 9th September 2021 by Lucius Books
https://fairs.abaa.org/item/1422514580
Purchased at open auction 27th July 2021
https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... hp?topic_id=4134&start=10
Advertised for sale 9th September 2021 by Lucius Books
https://fairs.abaa.org/item/1422514580

Sep 10, 2021
2021/9/10 1:21:44 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
2021/9/10 1:21:44 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
1st Impression Beowulf:
Sold at open auction for $180 -> $750 when flipped
https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... t_id=31594#forumpost31594
Advertised for $750
https://fairs.abaa.org/item/1420906006
Sold at open auction for $180 -> $750 when flipped
https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... t_id=31594#forumpost31594
Advertised for $750
https://fairs.abaa.org/item/1420906006

Sep 14, 2021
2021/9/14 2:47:28 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
2021/9/14 2:47:28 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Allen & Unwin 2nd Edition Hobbit '57 9th Print
Sold on Ebay for $547 USD about a month ago.
Currently Listed for $925 USD and falsely as a 1st Ed.
Sold on Ebay for $547 USD about a month ago.
Seller: levethian
(4232)
Ended Aug 23, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
£395.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: Mr. Underhill
Currently Listed for $925 USD and falsely as a 1st Ed.
Seller: labb1279
(1339)
Ended Nov 30, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
$925.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: Mr. Underhill

Sep 14, 2021
2021/9/14 2:54:30 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
2021/9/14 2:54:30 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
(Same Seller)
Allen & Unwin 2nd Edition Hobbit '56 8th Print
Sold on Ebay about a month ago for $685 USD
Currently Listed for $1625 USD and falsely as a 1st Ed.
Allen & Unwin 2nd Edition Hobbit '56 8th Print
Sold on Ebay about a month ago for $685 USD
Seller: levethian
(4232)
Ended Aug 23, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
£495.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: Mr. Underhill
Currently Listed for $1625 USD and falsely as a 1st Ed.
Seller: labb1279
(1275)
Ended Oct 15, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
$1,625.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: Mr. Underhill

Sep 26, 2021
(edited)
2021/9/26 20:11:26 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Edited by Stu on 2021/10/3 8:09:06
2021/9/26 20:11:26 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Another honourable mention for Dogfark
Original Sale - USD 350 (£255) -> Being flipped for £995 (at time of writing)
Edit - up again to £1295....
Original sale:
https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/auctions/234181899415
Dealer flip:
Original Sale - USD 350 (£255) -> Being flipped for £995 (at time of writing)
Edit - up again to £1295....
Original sale:
https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/auctions/234181899415
Dealer flip:
Seller: dogfark
(2382)
Ended Nov 29, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
£1,295.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: Mauro D86

Sep 27, 2021
2021/9/27 9:21:18 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
2021/9/27 9:21:18 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
And dogfark again
Original listing USD 249 (£182) - being flipped for £399. The picture used in the second listing is taken from the first, presumably because the flipper hasn't even received the book yet.
Original
Flipped
Original listing USD 249 (£182) - being flipped for £399. The picture used in the second listing is taken from the first, presumably because the flipper hasn't even received the book yet.
Original
Seller: gardennut01
(5058)
Ended Sep 26, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
$249.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: Stu
Flipped
Seller: dogfark
(2380)
Ended Nov 22, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
£499.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: Stu

Sep 27, 2021
2021/9/27 21:52:21 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
2021/9/27 21:52:21 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
[Just a reminder - keeping this a purely factual thread, rather than opinions on the items posted. There are dealers (well, not actually plural) who have threatened legal action in the past. The thread is purely to help people understand prices and how they can turn from A into B, using information that is in the public domain].

Oct 1, 2021
2021/10/1 21:04:07 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
2021/10/1 21:04:07 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Book currently available new from the publisher at date of posting (£295)
https://bodleianshop.co.uk/collections ... -earth-collectors-edition
Dealer attempting to sell book for £895
https://bodleianshop.co.uk/collections ... -earth-collectors-edition
Dealer attempting to sell book for £895
Seller: dogfark
(2377)
Ended Oct 30, 2021
Buy-It-Now:
£895.00
[ Bids]
Submitted by: northman