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Tips for acquiring a HarperCollins Deluxe Children of Hurin

Tips for acquiring a HarperCollins Deluxe Children of Hurin

Mar 2

Hello all,

First time poster here.

After waiting far too long to jump into the pool of Deluxe Tolkien editions published by HarperCollins, I settled on finding a boxed set of The Hobbit, LOTR, The Silmarillion, and The Children of Hurin. I was fortunate in finding one in (mostly) excellent condition. The Hobbit, LOTR, and Silmarillion are all in great shape, but The CoH has a couple of minor things that may compel me to find a substitute.

I'm only interested in a copy printed in Italy. However, no matter how many times within the past week or so that I've written sellers on various sites (Ebay, Ebay UK, Amazon, Amazon UK, etc.) enquiring as to where the book is printed, the only feedback I receive consists of "We're sorry, but we can't check the book for you, since it's at a warehouse," often followed by "Your best bet is to contact the publisher." (Actually, one person did provide me with a different response. It was "We checked, and the book was indeed published in the United Kingdom." My followup didn't receive a reply...)

Thus, I figured it wouldn't hurt to get some tips from true authorities in the field. I understand that there were many Italian printings of CoH (which is what I'm looking for), but later copies were printed in... Hong Kong, I believe?

Thanks for any and all assistance!
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Mar 5
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The_Antiquarian wrote:
Hello, you could also seek the copies from Tolkienbookshelf.com, if you care to buy a four-volume set and I do not think he will break it.

However, they all come in 1st impression of the deluxe set and from my previous experience, Tolkienbookshelf.com is one of the few trustworthy Tolkien-specialist seller.

https://www.tolkienbookshelf.com/pages ... om-black-leather-slipcase


Minor correction The LoTRs in the boxed set are all either 2nd or 3rd impressions. It wasn't issued with any 1sts. The other three volumes are all 1st impressions.

Edit: As is pointed out by Trotter in a post further down, this is a custom boxed set, rather than the HarperCollins boxed set of the same books, so what I said above is incorrect.
Mar 5
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Trotter wrote:

The_Antiquarian wrote:
from my previous experience, Tolkienbookshelf.com is one of the few trustworthy Tolkien-specialist seller.


I agree with the recommendation for Tolkienbookshelf.com, and dunedain always lists his items as accurately as possible, so you know what you are getting.

Would love to see recommendations for other online Tolkien book dealers


I think with all dealers you need to get plenty of pictures and make your own decision as to what constitutes fine, near fine, or whatever. I haven't found *any* Tolkien specialist dealers where I find their descriptions to be 100% accurate, 100% of the time. There is a natural tendency in any sales job to spin the upside, I guess.

In terms of descriptions, Tolkien Bookshelf is undoubtedly much better than most of the other Tolkien-specific sellers (who - on the whole - are awful). I've never had a positive surprise in terms of condition from a specialist dealer. I have had from non-specialist dealers and private sales.

I buy the cheaper end from dealers quite often, but almost never the more expensive stuff, as the level of markup generally becomes untenable vs private sale. I won't pay $1000 for a Hobbit I can pay $200 for (just by waiting a year until the right one comes up (for example)).
Mar 5
dogfark........sorry Trotter, couldn't resist
Mar 5
I have a 1st and a reprint and to be honest the quality has declined, the 1st has a nice tight slipcase, rounded spine however the reprints are from china and the slipcases on the reprints, at least on the recent ones, are loose. The Silmarillion was ridiculous with a very visible gap, again the 1sts are tight, also the recent ones seem to be missing the price which my 1sts all have. Are there American prints of these or are they Harper Collins too?
Mar 6
In America it Houghton Mifflin has not done deluxe editions very often - the red "leatherette" LOTR, the 50th anniversary blue slipcased one, and the green (then gold) slipcased Hobbit.

Easton Press has done leather-bound editions of many Tolkien books, under license from Houghton Mifflin, since 1984.

That's as close as it comes to the UK deluxe editions.
Mar 6

Urulókë wrote:
In America it Houghton Mifflin has not done deluxe editions very often - the red "leatherette" LOTR, the 50th anniversary blue slipcased one, and the green (then gold) slipcased Hobbit.

Easton Press has done leather-bound editions of many Tolkien books, under license from Houghton Mifflin, since 1984.

That's as close as it comes to the UK deluxe editions.


Not strictly true, as CoH & S&G got deluxes that were broadly similar to the HC ones (and also printed by LEGO).
Mar 6
Dang, you are right. I blocked those from my memory.
Mar 6
I prefer the American deluxe editions, they are worthy of the deluxe tag, The big red Leather lotr, the green leather Hobbit and gold and the 50th anniversary one. The Deluxe ones here in the u.k are basically paper and board and will wear easily, I'd say the best deluxe ones in the U.K were the Hobbit, Lotr and Silmarillion from 2001 I think, quarter bound in leather and cloth in black leather slipcases with gold leaf on the page edges and stamped on the front.
Mar 6

Not strictly true, as CoH & S&G got deluxes that were broadly similar to the HC ones (and also printed by LEGO).


Stu, which ones are these?
Mar 6
These ones...

(and I meant to say S&G was printed by Clays. CoH was LEGO).

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